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If the Governing Body were airline pilots

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If the Watchtower Society was given a cheque for 1 million dollars would they cash it ?

by Esse quam videri in

if the watchtower society received an envelope containing a cheque for 1 million dollars, made out to the society, along with a letter explaining that the money was won from gambling, either casino or lottery, .

1] would they cash it?.

2] if they did not cash it but rather returned to sender, what explanation would they give?.

Esse quam videri

If the Watchtower Society received an envelope containing a cheque for 1 million dollars, made out to the Society, along with a letter explaining that the money was won from gambling, either casino or lottery,

1] would they cash it?

2] If they did not cash it but rather returned to sender, what explanation would they give?

3] If they did cash it, what explanation would they give to justify it?

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Watchtower Society wins the 'PINK ELEPHANT' award for 2014

by Esse quam videri in

the international pink elephant committee has just awarded the 'watchtower society' the 'pink elephant' award for 2014. .

the committee's press release stated, in part;.

'... usually our ten committee members have to research a number of organizations to determine which one will receive the yearly award.

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The 2014 'Pink Elephant Award' is being very well received by members of the 'Watchtower Society'.

Members of the Governing Body, Bethel workers and Pioneers doing 'street cart witnessing' have all eagerly embraced the award. Many are displaying it publicly, as they go about their preaching work, saying that 'it shows we are #1.'

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Watchtower Society wins the 'PINK ELEPHANT' award for 2014

by Esse quam videri in

the international pink elephant committee has just awarded the 'watchtower society' the 'pink elephant' award for 2014. .

the committee's press release stated, in part;.

'... usually our ten committee members have to research a number of organizations to determine which one will receive the yearly award.

Esse quam videri

This just in:

The International Pink Elephant Committee has just awarded the 'Watchtower Society' the 'PINK ELEPHANT' award for 2014.

The committee's press release stated, in part;

'... usually our ten committee members have to research a number of organizations to determine which one will receive the yearly award. In past years the Watchtower Society has been a close runner-up, but never quite qualified for the top prize. However, this year the committee was unanimous in deciding in favor of the 'Watchtower Society'.
As everyone already knows, the award goes to the organization which best displays the ability to 'ignore the elephant in the middle of the room'. There are a number of criteria to be examined before a winner is announced. The 'Watchtower Society' met these criteria to a higher degree than any other group, business, government or organization. Some of these factors include
-        ignoring statements it has made in the past, especially in print. Among these are; discouraging members from having anything to do with the Internet, while in 2014, encouraging as many people as possible to view the jw.org site. This has been promoted with lapel pins, logo's on sign boards, on the sides of buses and in the printed literature. Members that were previously told to, in effect, shun the internet, are now directed to lead people to the Internet site.
-     cover-up of cases of children who have been sexually molested by members of the 'Watchtower Society', many times under the cloud of protective silence promoted by the organization. At times, it has even made threats of disfellowshipping and shunning ones who reveal such conduct. Even as evidence is presented to the 'Watchtower Society', it has the ability to act as if the events did not happen.
-    the ability to ignore its historical foundations, such as most events and publications from 1874 to 1999, while cherry- picking small clips and quotes from the past, to promote present day teachings....'

In honour of the Pink Elephant Award for 2014, the Pink Elephant logo has been incorporated together with the jw.org logo to create a unique logo that will be used to identify the Watchtower Society from all previous Pink Elephant Award winners. The committee feels it is well deserved, as the 'Watchtower Society' has shown unprecedented ability to,

' IGNORE THE ELEPHANT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM'

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exJW Psychology 102--How to Ask a Question When Questions Aren't Allowed

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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friends

now that enough time has passed and i've moved away, i think i'm overdue to share some of the stories from my fade.

i've mentioned some of this before, but i think it deserves its own thread.. we all would like to be able to freely ask questions about jw beliefs and get our family and friends to really think about certain questions.

however, when you're a baptized jw, you really can't ask any good questions or you'll get the "apostate" label slapped on you!

Esse quam videri

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Active and loyal JW's should use this forum to help them with their research.

by Esse quam videri in

at bluesbrothers topic, .

watchtower study today jan 4 2015 , fallacious reasoning (issue nov 15 2014),.

millie210 made the following comment: .

Esse quam videri

At BluesBrothers topic,

Watchtower Study today Jan 4 2015 , Fallacious Reasoning (issue Nov 15 2014),

millie210 made the following comment:

'...One of my favorite things on this forum is when someone dissects the study article on Sunday.

Given that they have a collective brain trust of writers formulating these articles, you are so right, that they ought to do better...'

This brings to light the effectiveness of a collection of people contributing to a subject. " In a multitude of counselors there is much wisdom." Prov 11:14. I understand the argument that this is talking about receiving advice from godly people, however, the principle of using the minds of others to more correctly understand something or to expand a persons knowledge of a subject can also be supported by this proverb. The modern day equivalent would be,' two heads are better than one'.

Therefore, an astute JW could come to this site and ask for assistance in locating a publication or quote from a publication on just about any subject and various members on this site would be more than happy to help them find it. They may add their personal comments, which may cast the society in an unfavourable light, however, the JW could merely ignore their comments and benefit from the research of the contributing members. If i was an active JW, I would be requesting all kinds of information regarding subjects of my studies. I have no doubt that many members would forward worthwhile information to me.

For JW's reading this pay attention. You have your own, free, research department right here.

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If Ebola got to the G.B

by Phizzy in

if ebola got to the g.b, some contracted it, the others were likely to develop it, and the only sure cure was 100% blood from ebola survivors, how quick do you think there would be some new light ?

Esse quam videri

A better question.

What if one the GB got aids? How would that be handled?

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Suggestions for ways to improve 'jehovahs-witness.com'

by Esse quam videri in

i am hesitant to continue on this board.

my main reasons are that not enough content is shown on the screen which means more scrolling,and there is no indication of how many views each posting receives.

this, in my opinion, is critical to keep the postings coming.

Esse quam videri

You have only been here for 8 days!

Eight days on my new account. Six hundred posts and 100 topics. Patience please. I am just a young'in.

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Suggestions for ways to improve 'jehovahs-witness.com'

by Esse quam videri in

i am hesitant to continue on this board.

my main reasons are that not enough content is shown on the screen which means more scrolling,and there is no indication of how many views each posting receives.

this, in my opinion, is critical to keep the postings coming.

Esse quam videri

I am hesitant to continue on this board. My main reasons are that not enough content is shown on the screen which means more scrolling,and there is no indication of how many views each posting receives. This, in my opinion, is critical to keep the postings coming. Who wants to post a subject that may have required hours researching and preparation to find that only three people post a reply? However, if nine-hundred views are registered, which is not a great number, this would keep the posters motivated to provide further postings.

My suggestions are the following:

1- Decrease the size of the fonts

2- Show the number of views for each posting

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research impossible

by sowhatnow in

so, now that nearly all of the past knowledge that jw's has had is slowly being deleted, how does anyone do any research on any subject?.

meetings are pretty boring as it is, all they do is parrot the society's writings.. how is this going to work?

i have to wonder , what point is the service meeting , once you know how to walk up to a door and hand someone a magazine.

Esse quam videri

I asked a street cart attender where I could find older WT publications at the jw.org library. They had an elder contact me by e-mail. After further asking him for directions to these older publications I was sent the following e-mail.

Ready?

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Hi ____,

Thank you for your interest in the history of Jehovah's Witnesses. Unfortunately the writings of Russell and Rutherford have not been in circulation since the 1940's. The only way to see them would be in our library headquarters in Brooklyn NY. And at that they are not open to the public.

Sorry I could not be of any assistance to you in this matter.

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I replied with the following e-mail

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Hi ___.

Thanks for your effort. I did some further research and found archive sites that have almost all of the scanned publications. They are fascinating reading. This is the kind of thing we should be sharing with each other. What a marvelous tool the internet is.

I will forward you the links from my home computer. Isn't it interesting to study history? So much to learn.

Have a productive day.

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I then sent the following e-mail

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Hi ___,

Here are links to some excellent sources for scanned and archived Watchtower Society publications from 1874 - 1963.

http://wtarchiv.kilu.de/index_e.htm
http://wtarchive.svhelden.info/english/books-and-tracts/

Many are pdf files to make searching more efficient.

Regards,

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Well, that was three weeks ago and no reply. Wouldn't you think I would at least get a ' thank-you'?

January 1, 1994 issue on page 21, stated;

For the past 114 years, The Watchtower, like a skillful lawyer has established itself as a defender of Bible truth and doctrine .. it continues to be the principal instrument of 'the faithful and discreet slave' and its Governing Body for announcing Jehovah's established Kingdom and dispensing spiritual food 'at the proper time.'

Why is this lawyer like skillful defense of Bible truth and doctrine, in older publications, not made available to researchers?